Preface:
In a flash, java into the pit for four years, the interview often encountered, requiring four years of work experience, 2--3 years do not need to do, and why? Issues related to the cost of doing business, looking for a life less, have to train, of course, my words is not absolute, number of years does not mean that technology.
How many four-year life, especially our program ape, 30 years is a hurdle. Once heard, I told HR department manager, said more than 30-year-old program apes do not, by four years of precipitation, sea Panning, we can see, the people around us, and some become the boss, and some become architects some become project manager, and I was one yard farmers.
Each program ape, has a story of their own.
Shenzhen 15 years alone break, a break outsourcing (a) outsourcing to peace
Borrow very popular online word, the world is so big, I want to go out and see, with 1000 dollars, two blankets, boxes Shenzhen began my journey, I remember it was a summer in order to save money, buy a hard seat tickets, about 120, to sit 12 hours by train to Shenzhen, spent 500, at the Lo Wu rented a co-rent a room four bunk beds. 8 people live, see here, we are not thought of his high school life.
I do not know, I considered a good luck is still considered poor, at home, finishing the day after the presentation of a sister school, introduction to the interview assignment to peace, the next day, early in the morning, the last interview, face for an hour, let me go back to such notice, at night, they received offer, here, have to talk, I talk about the problem with outsourcing of wages, wages confidential salary + wrap, is a man of commitment room, just my hand on there is no money, I was quite tempting, went to the peace outsourcing, open my trip to work overtime. One per week version, the version will be sent into the wee hours, sometimes in the morning 1-2 points, plus I live far, the company has clocked in 9:00, 7:00 I am, you have downstairs, bought a breakfast, walking, eating , go to the bus station waiting for the bus, give us a suggestion, while walking, eating breakfast poor health, do not advocate.
In this company, I was responsible for the development of micro-channel public number, is a software to help build bridges and users of the insurance, with the technology, nor is it safe inside the package good, it is springmvc + jquery mobile + html, in fact, the core part is the development of the public number of interfaces, such as sharing and so on.
This day lasted four months, I really can not stand, submitted his resignation with the company, the resignation of reasons:
1. overtime frequently, sometimes often in the morning 1-2 points several times, the way home, my head is a blank, it seems a lot of bad news, I feel that this is the body issued a warning to me, I must be vigilant.
2. Before the company's commitment to encase a person a, a change a few people, but, also rent only to reimburse me down a month later, there is no movement Le.
3. Before submitting with the company over pay, but promised before HR good, has been changed back, saying give me one week, I was under consideration, has dragged on almost 3 weeks and still no reply, on pay, customers the company's project manager, also talk to me talk, asked me why I left, behind the project manager said to me, you feel at ease to do so here, on the issue of salary, I will follow your company feedback. --- Outsourcing pit one point I encountered: the client company agreed to add money, companies are reluctant to add money.
4. the reach of core technology, the daily job is to write the phone back page + interfaces, most of the work is written in the front end, the project team has five people, a front-end, I, as a back-end, most of the time in writing the front end, the front part, I was self-taught, there is time to take a look at rookie tutorial program ape society public numbers, let me from a front-end know nothing of white, slowly turned themselves can independent school page.
How to negotiate your salary and HR?
Case 1: A friend of mine (hereinafter referred to us J) dialogue with HR, and three years of development experience, he hoped salary is 10, the last being a HR pressure and then pressure becomes 8.5
HR: First of all, congratulations to Mr. so and so, you pass our interview, do you have any requirements on wages.
J I'm on a salary is 9k, I hope 10k
A state of mind and not right, has been frequent communication with HR, and finally do not know what he comes up with a snakeskin operation, directly HR backhand a big move, to negotiate a wage 8.5k
case study:
In general, HR payroll ask the following three conditions:
1, you determine for itself the value of
2, you treat the attitude of salary
if 3, you expect to pay remuneration consistent with the business
but you have to understand that this is not the time to relax vigilance! ! !On the salary is a part of the interview, I do not think a salary through the interview to talk about aspects of the initiative would have thought. Arrogant when talking about salary or a big opening to let HR unhappy, it may be pass out.
Standard answer: pay, I think you must have a fair and reasonable salary system standard, I just able to perform in accordance with this standard on it.
Follow-up: wages will share relevant part of the article, let us not be fooled by the immediate wage.
16 years --- two break Outsourcing Outsourcing to move (II)
Even the first, outsourcing encounter a lot of unhappy things, the second entry, I still go, outsourcing, as a college students, basically ruled out the company's go a little bigger idea, and I was thinking, that is, obsessed with big companies that want to go, learn some knowledge, to move the interview, the interviewer usually three, I tried to go, but finally slightly too easy, hee hee, for everyone to disclose, for 16 years, that when I interview a situation. 60% pass rate, then as long as you ssm, jquery, html + css, jquery UI, easyUI, to find a suitable job very easy. Let me say this year's interview request, at least have to be springboot and Spring cloud, the need for this information with friends, you can concern "program ape Society."
Because the period of work experience before, so at this stage, I find companies tend to relax a little company, give you a brief introduction about the length of movement of the work, in the morning 9: 00-12: 00, 14:00: 00-17: 30 , 6.5 hours a day's work, I think in the same industry which, when considered long working less, not more than three days a year to work overtime, adjustable break.
Here is that big company's organizational structure, the following is a personal view, not necessarily correct, it can serve as a reference,
To build: the general large companies, not many developers, most of them are some of the operations staff and managers constitute
The developer, mainly through two ways:
1. The annual outsourcing tender, all companies providing outsourcing services, need to be involved, here refers to the manpower outsourcing, outsourcing companies, each year, to submit a tender document, which contains the price at all levels of development, we you can find the same level, outsourcing companies give to our developer unit price high and low, it is this effect. According to, a single room each company to provide services to client companies the same level, to outsourcing companies will have to change. If the outsourcing company's annual tender, however, it can only say I'm sorry, you have to change jobs, pay attention: need to work in the client company.
2. outsourcing, the client company with the outsourcing company signed a related contract, the project developed much money. Staff this way, when the company can develop late, need docking with the customer, only need to carry out development work in the field, it is recommended, with the intention of outsourcing friends this way.
Organization management:
Developer by outsourcing HR outsourcing + composition
HR Outsourcing Leader:
Responsible for the development of tracking the progress of the project, as well as related documentation output, you can refer to the following Screenshot
Outsourcing Project Leader:
The progress of each task is responsible for the development of outsourcing, HR outsourcing and docking with the person in charge.
project manager:
Assumed by the client company insiders. Manage the project.
product:
Served by the company's customer service staff, and make relevant requirements.
demand:
Outsourcing personnel, docking with the product, the text line by line, the formation of a sketch, really focus on products in open field.
test:
Software testing is to verify the quality of the software developed
QA: QA is the quality of management positions, many large companies have a special quality management department. In the project development process will be supervised by a full QA, to see whether the software development in accordance with the standards of CMMI. Whether the document is complete, the development of a baseline are clear, whether there is a risk, BUG of whether the reduction target can be completed and the like.
The benefit of this job is not so much overtime, experienced QA project managers can help manage the project. Equivalent to the identity of a supervisor.
Personal experience
In this company, I was responsible for the trading risk control system, by rule, mass data, matching the rules and found that the data in question, carried a warning, turn work orders. It comes to big data hbase, solr, etc., before the documentation are recorded in the proper way cloud. Large data piece, a corresponding support large data set. And I was the boss, is responsible for a large data aspects of God, follow him to do a java development, three years of work experience, transfer large data development a year, after they get out, interviewing, salary 20w.
And my boss, men also lack some of the troops, then, is my choice, I'm going to take on the road to big data, the following are some of my record half-year study. Who knows, my boss was sent to other departments to become a project manager, and I, the road of big data, it is so cold, give us a suggestion, a friend of big data of interest, want to turn big data, or carefully consider the good, do not look at the big fire data, high wages, we intend to turn big data, big data, not likened to java, you buy some books, watch some video, you will be able to improve the technology, big data, just because the rise did not take long, or whether it is learning materials for some of the few to answer questions, if you really are interested in big data, it is recommended that you have a certain ability to read English, so the study, almost all in English, it is hard to find Chinese documents related learning, in the process, I realized the 2 jump from the crew to the back-end development team leader, then project leader, responsible for the operation of the entire project, daily work, that is, with product demand, how to discuss the project should be implemented, the database interface documentation, api interface documentation, deployment, project division of labor and so on. In that year, but also my personal growth soon a year. So, follow a good leader is very important, if we are interested in the development of the management, you can consider going to learn about big companies. Learn about the detailed set of processes, rather than as a small company to develop the efficiency of all aspects of the document, and so on are very non-standard, sometimes, a person with the proper three people, was responsible for many aspects, such as development, testing, , deployment and so on.
Here, begs the question, do you think, big and small companies what is the difference?
1. First, academic requirements, if you do not have a diploma show, basically, you have not even interview screening could not pass this off
Programs should be taken outside the famous ape, in the repair technology
Outside the repair fame:
I think we have seen a number of novels, for example, before the three inside, PK, a first-come, playing their own signature slogan, for example, often sub-Long Wu Nai Changshan Zhao Zilong and I would dare a war. This is known outside the repair, to create his own reputation in the political arena, meet people, you give your name, most people will give a little face, as our program ape is the same reason, we should also upgrade themselves in the industry position, we think, you go to the interview, say the name of the interviewer, one, it's not often I look at a certain thing on a blog, and I was advancing toward this regard, the official blog wrote more than a year , written about 240 articles.
In the repair technique:
Of course, within this repair technique is the most important, to share a story
Warring States period, the State of Zhao Zhao She named a general, he repeated military exploits, dubbed the king clothes horse. Zhao named Kuo's son, a child he learned the art of war, talk of troops to fight things clearly and logically, Kuo Zhao She once told his father talk of troops to fight over things, Zhao She can not refute him, but he did not say good . Kuo's mother was very surprised and asked one of the reasons for Zhao She, Zhao She is very worried and said: "war is a matter of life and death, although his son familiar with the art of war, but there is no actual combat experience, only on paper, in the future if his troops to war I am afraid that would have been disastrous. "later, once white from the Qin to the school, in command of one million Xiongbing crusade against Zhao. Zhao Lian Po general life, but also the rate of four hundred thousand troops blocking Qin in Changping. Qin Lian know many men, forage transport difficulties, adverse long battle. He ordered Zhao stick with insurance, so that no war fought from the back. Qin Zhao Changping Xiangzhi two armies in a long time, still can not make a breakthrough, since white can not do anything, not seeing aid to forage on, anxious went to pieces. So, there are soldiers offer him sent Zhao to spread rumors, not afraid of Lian Qin said, fear is Kuo. Zhao know the count, as will be immediately ordered Kuo, Lian place. Lin, who protested, but Zhao insisted. Kuo to the front, all the changed military law, the appointment of officers lightly, in direct confrontation with the theory learned in the book and Qin, because the same result through the ambush in the Qin, Zhao all captured four more than ten million, after the white from abusing design. Zhao badly hurt, was soon WANG Jian Qin exterminate
Through this story, what can we get inspiration:
Kuo studied military books, but the lack of battlefield experience, do not know how to be flexible, the final outcome, I think we all know, Kuo Qin shot dead. Kuo's army defeated, in fact, is not enough support from Kuo's knowledge of his reputation, so we should also be wary of programs ape, not because of some people call you a big brother, big God felt in the industry within quite good, and notes outside the mountains there, and people, as the program apes, we should keep a humble attitude, always pay attention to the news and some of the latest technological developments in some sectors, I remember about 2000, when I remember also use the BB machine, we are unified in Hunan, it is called paging, we look at the moment, from 2G to 4G, and then to 5G, today's fast changing times, and this requires that we constantly need to charge for self otherwise, one day, will be powered off, and off that day comes, that is, you abandoned the industry that day.
Here to share with you, from a friends told me of his experience, had intended to take a look at a screenshot of the chat, too long, can not find it.
Wang next program ape, since after graduation to work in a company, there are now more than three years, every day is to complete the task assigned the top down, not learning, so boil for three years, a recent chat with me, to be fired.
A company can stay in three years, the president must give you a praise, to be in a company for three years, after I heard at that time, I feel really weird, though, the industry has a requirement for loyalty, requiring a person, do not quit frequency too high, and in real life, really working for three years at a company man, it is really not much, in general, we'll be half a company, even a basic understanding of the company's general process, three years, If the company does not innovate, basically, it is difficult to enhance. This refers not only to enhance refer to the technical aspects, as well as wages, if you hold the full year, the company gives you a lot of salary increase, I advise you, or wake up, the sky is already bright , do not dream, in general, into the company, how much salary, your salary will not change much, the president, to a person's identity came to tell you that the ideal is very rich, the reality is very skinny, do not think of myself as too one thing that I do for the company how much, how much contribution to the project without me, can not become what you must give me more money, otherwise, I ran the road, people holding this type of idea, is really a lot. I can only tell you that unless the company away from you, you really can not operate normally, then you hold this attitude, I can understand, the president also agreed, but also agree with hands above their heads. You have got to give me a raise this idea, indicating that you still do a lot for the company's contribution, first of all congratulations, you avoid what might be discouraging, we could often hear recently, the company has laid off , and these people were laid off, basically, most of them are procedures ape next door Wang this mentality. Found that work, you can enjoy a life of ease, friendship reminder president, who called Wang friends next door, or have a sense of crisis.
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To be continued, follow-up time to update the public number will update a few days earlier, on public awareness of personal program number ape Society, later, the main blog to share some technical aspects of the article, the public number, share some of the life course and program ape interview experience.
