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Since its launch in November 2022 , ChatGPT developed by OpenAI has been popular all over the world. In the face of this wave of AI , some people embrace the new trend, some people worry about being replaced, and some people explore the entrepreneurial opportunities and value in it. Entrepreneurship is a process of breaking through the sand. The current AI revolution represented by ChatGPT is on the eve of the dawn of large-scale integration and subversion of various industries. Under the technology trend coming from ChatGPT , what products and developments will AI bring worth talking about? On April 10th , Liu Ren, as the host, had a discussion with Wang Jianshuo, the founder of People AI, and Zhichun Capital, at the Foresight 2023 event . Founder Zeng Yinglong and KOIVERSE.AI founder Joy Xue , with the theme of " Under the Wave of ChatGPT-4 , Imagine the Future of Web3 ", jointly discussed the methods and paths for the possible combination of ChatGPT and Web3 .
Liu Ren: Jianshuo, when did you first use ChatGPT ?
Wang Jianshuo : GPT will be used in the summer of 2020. WhenGPT3 came out, we used it to write novels, but found that it was not enough to meet the standards required by the video, so we gave up. ChatGPT-3.5 will be available later in January this year . 3.5 is much better than 3. It has a better scene. In fact, two or three years ago, Columbus had already arrived in the New World, but it didn’t seem to have any impact. At the beginning of this year, he used Chat. At this time, it was actually Columbus who brought gold. After returning, everyone realized that the New World was useful, but there were still two years between the discovery of the New World and the "coming back with gold".
Liu Ren : What is the difference between the experience at the beginning of this year and the experience now?
Wang Jianshuo : People can only be shocked by a technology once. That moment is during the Spring Festival, and it has been used more and more recently. More than 60 people in the company have been developing it for three months, and more It is used as the bottom layer of a system, not a tool, so more things can be discovered.
Wang Jianshuo, founder of People AI, made a speech
Liu Ren: Mr. Zeng voted for both Web3 and AI . Will there be any changes in your preferences? When did you start?
Zeng Yinglong : The entire investment logic of our fund is "computing power liberates creativity". We will look at all scenarios or AI that can reduce the creativity of ordinary people through technological variables. In the past five years, we have paid attention to Crypto and AI . They are all taken out separately as the main line, and have not been disassembled. There are some scenarios in the financial field in Web3 , which are very valuable.
Liu Ren : Joy Xue is doing AI . Can AI products be used in Web3 ?
Joy Xue : After AI came out of the circle last year, it was indeed a transformation of production tools, which released a lot of creative productivity. In the past two years, Web3 was a very popular word, but the metaverse application scenarios did not cover a wider range of industries. Now After AIGC came out, there are two levels of empowerment. The first one is conversational communication, which can get what you want . Machines have memory and understanding. Another level is the "general knowledge brain" behind it. In addition to the general-purpose large-scale model, there is a lot of space for private use of the large-scale model, which will open up a large space for the application of the metaverse.
Wang Jianshuo : But the biggest difference between Web3 and ChatGPTWeb3 is a concept, and GPT is a product, and the product will always hang on to the concept. The Internet is hot because of great products such as browsers and iPhones
Liu Ren : Jianshuo, how do you use ChatGPT and Web3 technology in your current project ?
Wang Jianshuo : We spent a whole year intensively researching Web3 , but we didn't do a single project, but after trying it on ChatGPT3 days, I asked all the staff to work on this project, which is a big difference . Because some problems need to be solved, I think almost all ChatGPT projects will be pushed to the Web3 field. Building new robots will become easy and important in the future, but robots must be paid to answer questions. Otherwise, there will be two problems: First, if there is no Mapping Payment on the Internet , there will be SPAM . The same is true for robots. Answering questions requires a certain cost. If you do not solve the SPAM problem, I believe that after one year, the robot will no longer serve you; the second problem is circular references. One robot will give your question to another robot to answer, and the other robot will do the same. If it goes on like this, if a loop is formed and you finally return to the original robot, there will be no technical means to solve it, and virtually all resources will be occupied. Finish. There are many problems that need to be solved with assets. From a global perspective, there is no solution except using Web3So I boldly guess that the entire ChatGPT product is actually the Netscape and Navigator of Web3 , but we haven't realized it yet.
Zeng Yinglong, founder of Zhichun Capital, made a speech
Zeng Yinglong : The means of production in our industry are all digitized, so there is a problem of global circulation. Who will confirm the rights, who will call them, etc., need to have a ledger. The IQ of AI is related to the amount of data. It needs human feedback to know which way to go is good and which way to go is bad. Therefore, AI , a purely digital business body, needs to match and serve it. Service, digital production relations. In the digital world, you need to cooperate with others on a large scale, which requires smart contracts to guarantee credit. With Web3 , robots become a role in our social relationships.
Wang Jianshuo : Right. Once there is a world of robots, these assets become a must. The human brain is more like ChatGPT . Hormones such as dopamine and endorphins under the human brain control our brains. The hormones of ChatGPT are assets in its wallet.
Joy Xue : What drives ChatGPT must be driven by what humans let it go. Its logical reasoning comes from feedback. Is it purely monetary incentives? It can continue to feed back. At present, there is still a certain degree of inexplicability in logic. . AI requires Web3 scenarios. There are many controversies now, such as the panic that humans will be replaced, and the large models are controlled by large companies, making everyone even more afraid. But if it is placed on Web3 and on the chain, it can actually solve the problem of being controlled by giants in the real world.
KOIVERSE.AI founder Joy Xue made a speech
Liu Ren: Recently, everyone has been talking about the threat of artificial intelligence to human beings. How do you think about this issue? Is its threat to human beings and Web3 a false proposition?
Wang Jianshuo : I am a fanatical technological optimist. As long as productivity increases, it will have great benefits for human beings. I don’t see a particularly big problem. It will definitely have some problems, but they will definitely be resolved. I even have some objections. Intuitive conclusion: the industries that are more impacted by ChatGPT are more promising and have more opportunities, while industries that are not impacted by ChatGPT are bound to wither.
Zeng Yinglong : I prefer to think of it as an enhancement. We investors need to do industry research every day and analyze the upstream and downstream of the entire industry. ChatGPT is what I use most every day . In terms of data collection, it will more and more conform to my standard instructions in the future, so I am more willing to trust ChatGPT .
Wang Jianshuo : The emergence of ChatGPT , from a certain point of view, compared with the future, today is actually an information wasteland, just like I used Google earlier , there are a lot of information wastelands, there are two opinions: one is that it does not have enough information, or If the information is not good, this thing cannot be used, and people will leave. But the entrepreneur's point of view is that if there is no information, it is all my chance! What it lacks we make up for . This is an opportunity once in 20 years. The last such opportunity was the birth of Google , or the opportunity at the beginning of Internet business.
Liu Ren: The last question is for Joy Xue , how will you use Web3 in your products faster ?
Joy Xue : As AI practitioners, what we provide is production tools. There are two aspects to the application in Web3. On the one hand, the product is pushed to the application scenario of Web3 , based on the information of individuals or small organizations to make his private models and private data. Avatar, and then push it to the application scenario of Web3 , the other is (currently not for us), for a large model, put it on Web3 , use distributed computing power, storage, data input and feedback, and appropriate incentives mechanism, put these into the Web3 space , and more talents can share the benefits of AIGC's progress.
Editor: Gu Lei