A programmer with 7 years of work experience, what happens when he jumps out of a big factory | Programmer has something to say

Author | Zuo Xiaolong

Source | Lin Xiaosanguan said (xiaolongzuo)

I haven't written an article for a long time, but I have updated the novel every one or two months. In retrospect, LZ has been working for 8 years now. In retrospect, it is inevitable that I will feel emotion for a while. Time really passed too fast.

It was the most wonderful experience in LZ's work for more than 4 years in Beijing. This is why LZ's novels are based on the real experience of LZ's hard work in Beijing, because it was an unforgettable and wonderful time.

In 16 years, I was offered an offer from a big factory, so LZ came to Hangzhou resolutely. After arriving in Hangzhou, LZ's work was a lot dull, maybe it has something to do with age, or maybe it is related to the livable city atmosphere of Hangzhou .

Big factories have various benefits and benefits that small companies do not have. Therefore, in this company's 3 years, LZ lived in his own house, gave birth to a cute son, and also had his own luxury car. In the past three years in the old club, LZ has gained a lot, not only in work, but also in life.

However, there is no unbroken banquet in the world. After 3 years, LZ also knows that it cannot continue to sink. Therefore, in 19 years, LZ decisively opened the fourth career change.

At this time, LZ has passed the age of standing, and LZ obviously feels very different from when he switched jobs in Beijing.

Next, LZ will briefly talk with you. LZ's experience of changing jobs this time, I believe that there should be some help and reference for many students, especially those in Hangzhou.

Here to say a little, this article will not involve any content such as interview questions, so if you want to see the interview questions, students may be disappointed, but LZ wrote an article about the interview before, at the end of the article, LZ will give a link , Interested students can go to see.

Overall perception

Let ’s first talk about the overall perception of this job-hopping experience. The conclusion in one word is-difficult!

To be honest, this was completely unimaginable before LZ changed jobs. When LZ wanted to come, when he was in Beijing, LZ had no background in a big factory, and the school was n’t so good, he could easily change jobs every time and get an ideal. Offer, now LZ technology is definitely stronger than before, and also has the experience of big manufacturers, job-hopping should be handy.

Who ever thought that things were counterproductive, the fact is that this time, LZ has encountered a lot of obstacles.

Some company talked about it and suddenly changed his mind, saying that because LZ education is not enough, it should be that HC was suddenly locked. There was also a chat with the HR of a company until late at night, just for those thousands of dollars of wages, and finally there was no discussion. There was also a company interview, LZ drove 40+ kilometers to go, and waited at the door for 2 hours before seeing the interviewer swaying. Even a company's HR maliciously vilified LZ in public, and eventually affected LZ's departure.

These specific companies are not mentioned here. In short, they are very headaches.

Of course, there are some very sincere companies, such as a certain car, a certain rainbow, and a certain company. Although they didn't talk about it in the end, it was considered to add a warmth to this cold market.

In general, LZ has interviewed nearly 20 companies this time, including all large companies in Hangzhou, as well as some small and medium-sized companies, but only 4 of them actually get Offer , and these 4 are really competitive There are only 2 Offer!

Yes, you read that right, there are only 2!

Of course, looking for a job is just like looking for a wife. No matter how much, in the end, you can only choose one, so one is enough.

But this result is very different from what LZ expected. Originally, LZ thought that when he came out of the big factory, the offer should be soft, and then he was surrounded by many HRs and shouted "Come here", and finally LZ reluctantly chose a family The company then sincerely apologized to other companies, fully embodying LZ's coercion and status.

Who would have thought that in the end LZ can only hover a little between the two poor Offer , you can choose, because there is no other choice for you.

Afterwards, LZ recalled carefully, why did this result appear in this interview, because his technology is not home?

LZ thinks it should not be. Although LZ does not dare to say how strong the technology is, it should not be too bad, so this is definitely not the reason, at least not the main reason, because many companies did not talk about it in the end, and it was not the reason for LZ's insufficient technology.

What is the reason? Next, I will discuss with you one by one. If you have students who encounter the same problem, you can also refer to it.

The first reason-the market

Yes, LZ thinks that the first reason is-the market.

During the years when LZ was in Beijing, it just happened to catch up with a wave of P2P. At that time, as long as it was P2P, the salary was high, and the demand for programmers was in short supply.

However, with the recent remediation of P2P, a large number of companies have closed down, and the development of the Internet has reached a certain bottleneck period, there are fewer and fewer projects that can be entrepreneurial. Therefore, investors have become calmer on the Internet, and funds have begun to a lot Inflow to other industries.

Not only that, some of the original big factories are becoming more and more difficult to survive, because many of the big factories survive on a main business. When this main business is not working, if there is no new battlefield, then only Drinking dove quenches thirst. Therefore, some time ago, many companies broke the news of layoffs, and it was confirmed that many were true.

As a result, a large number of programmers from large factories flooded the market, exacerbating this situation again.

Of course, there is another reason behind the market cooling, that is, there are more and more programmers, and newcomers are getting stronger and stronger. 985 graduate students can be said to be everywhere, and training institutions mass-produce programmers. This situation is exacerbated.

This may also be because, after a period of precipitation, the profession of programmers gradually put out the label of "fast entry and high salary", thus attracting many young people to enter the profession.

You think, there are several occupations that can be trained for a year and a half, and the monthly salary can easily be tens of thousands, or even 20,000 or 30,000.

But this is also normal. China or the market has always been like this. Take Internet cafes for example. The first batch of Internet cafes made a lot of money. But as more and more people realized that when they opened Internet cafes, it turned out to be so profitable, and then when they started to open Internet cafes, the business of Internet cafes became more and more difficult to do. In addition, most families now have computers. To make the business of Internet cafes even worse.

This is the aggregation effect. Just like the KTV in the LZ county, if you find that a KTV is particularly hot, then in a short time, there will be N KTVs opening, forcing you to make progress and improvement, and finally live. There are often only one or two.

In a word, only if we keep following the times, can we not be discarded. We can't compete with the laws of the market. Learning SSH and going through the ages where the world is not afraid is gone.

At the same time, now is the golden period of job-hopping, LZ also wants to advise all students to do their best. Don't find out after you come out, you are not so popular.

Of course, do n’t retreat because of the fear of changing jobs. LZ only wants everyone to understand their level and market before jumping, and LZ always believes that changing jobs is always the main motivation for learning and progress in work.

Of course, thinking about job-hopping does not necessarily require job-hopping, but rather that you have to prepare for the job-hopping moment so that you have the motivation to learn.

Think about an clerk, why these people are labelled as unpredictable and entertaining themselves, although this is somewhat arbitrary, but it is really no storm. And LZ does not think that these clerk are not self-motivated, but a thought has influenced him, that is-I will do this job for a lifetime, I do not need to change jobs.

Since I don't need to change jobs, what am I doing? In this way, it is easy for people to be lazy. This is human nature. This kind of inertia everyone has, most people are not spared.

If you are spared, that is, you did n’t think about changing jobs, but you are still full of motivation, LZ can only say: "Your current company is definitely not more than 2 years! Your enthusiasm has not yet passed, waiting for your long hair and waist , Let's look at it again. "

If you are spared again, LZ can only say: "Nima, you won!"

The second reason-the ceiling

The ceiling, yes, the ceiling.

At the time when I switched jobs in Beijing, the salary of LZ was still relatively low. At that time, the rate of job change rose up to 50% or even higher. Even if the same company did not change jobs, sometimes the salary increase was 20% or even 30. % Is rising.

However, now that LZ has passed, it has reached a bottleneck in terms of wages and benefits. It is naturally more difficult to maintain such a salary increase.

It's like if you go from 5000 to 10000, it may be easy to double, but if you want to double from 20,000 to 40,000, the difficulty will not be the same.

What's more, LZ is now in Hangzhou. Compared with Beijing, Hangzhou's IT is not at the same level as Beijing, so it is even more difficult. After all, there are too few companies and fewer large companies.

In fact, this dilemma is what many people often call a "middle-age crisis." LZ didn't understand it before, but now it somewhat understands the meaning behind the word.

In fact, your abilities and treatment have reached the bottleneck. When you want to change jobs, you will find that you can only step back in place or even go backwards. What's more, even if you don't switch jobs, you will be accidentally opened. This is the true portrayal of the "middle-age crisis".

But in fact, the "mid-life crisis" is even more terrible. It is not that you cannot find a better job, or that you will be opened at any time, but it is the kind of psychological pressure. Even if you are all fine, in fact, you are invisible This pressure.

Unless you can climb the mountain in front of you and see the better scenery behind the mountain, this pressure will be much less.

The popular point is that when your "middle-age crisis" comes, even before it comes, you have climbed to a higher position.

But after all, this is a small group of people, like the high P of a large factory, the high T of a large factory, etc., but in fact, LZ believes that even if you climb to a higher position, there is the same pressure waiting You are just relatively small, because you still face the risk of not being able to find a better job after being opened and out.

So, long ago, LZ said that the best way to deal with the "middle-age crisis" is to achieve financial freedom as soon as possible, so that you will naturally have less pressure.

Of course, the so-called financial freedom does not mean that you can make tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars, and it will be called financial freedom if you ca n’t spend it all your life. The simple residence is that you can do anything you can to maintain a basic life. This is called financial freedom.

At least you wo n’t worry about the day when you wo n’t get a high salary, you wo n’t even be able to eat your meals, at most it ’s a little savings in life.

Talking about the "Middle-aged crisis", let's return to the topic just now. When we meet the ceiling, the interview will be like LZ this time. Many companies don't want you, but they can't give you a satisfactory salary.

If it is low, you are dissatisfied. After all, it is not easy to jump a job. Anyone who does not raise the salary will find it not cost-effective. If it is high, they ca n’t afford it, or they do n’t want to give it. Scattered.

This is also one of the reasons why LZ's interview was so unsuccessful. This is the case for more than half of the companies.

Of course, this may also be a disadvantage for the big factory students to change jobs, because the salary of the big factory (especially the total contract) is higher, so if you do n’t go to the company of the same level, if you want to keep the current salary even further, the difficulty is It will be much bigger.

This is also one of the reasons why classmates in colleges and universities are relatively less likely to change jobs, not only because the company itself is good and worth looking forward to, but also for a very important reason. Many people simply cannot jump out because of the higher Treatment or stock options have caused many people to be restricted to the company. Unless you are willing to give up some of the benefits, it will be difficult to go out, especially in second-tier cities such as Hangzhou or quasi-first-tier cities.

If it is Beijing, it may be relatively better. After all, there are many big factories in Beijing, and there are many companies that can afford wages, so it will be less difficult to find a job after coming out.

So this reminds us again, if you feel that your current salary and treatment have reached the ceiling, or close to the ceiling, then when you change jobs, you must be calm and appropriately reduce your expectations, otherwise you may be very uncomfortable with this Variety.

Here, I will give you a reference value for the wage range. You can see if you are in this range. If it is higher than this range, it means that you are better. If it is lower than this range, it means that you still need to work hard.

However, it should be noted that the following content is only applicable to Hangzhou (if it is north to deep, please add 5000 to Hangzhou, and it is the same as Hangzhou if it is Guangzhou), and it is for reference only. If there is any discrepancy, it is not responsible, adults Have your own judgment.

In Hangzhou, most of the students with a year or less are 5K-1W monthly salary. In about 3 years, they will generally be increased to about 1.5W-2W. In about 5 years, they will generally be raised to about 2.5W-3W. As for 5 As the year goes up, the difference is relatively large. For example, some people are rising fast, and the annual salary may be one million or even higher in 7 or 8 years, but some still stay between 30-40W annual salary, that is, There is no big change with the monthly salary of 3W.

After talking about the interval, let's talk about two common ceilings in Hangzhou.

In fact, in this place in Hangzhou, 3W (or 35W-50W annual salary) is the first ceiling, and another grade is raised, which is the group of people with annual salary of about 50W-70W, which is also the second ceiling.

To raise the level one more time, that is, people with an annual salary of more than 70W or even more than one million, these people will not discuss it. Generally, such people will not consider salary when they change jobs, because if you consider salary, the current income of these people Often, there is no need to change jobs, or it is not possible to change jobs, because a large part of his income may come from stock options, and the job will be gone.

LZ said what these two common ceilings mean. In fact, when your annual salary is more than 300,000, or more than 500,000, you should pay special attention when you change jobs, because at this time you want to go further, often need to break A certain ceiling, that is, you need to have a qualitative improvement, otherwise, it may be difficult for you to jump into the next level.

In other words, it is much harder to raise your salary from 30W to 50W (only 60%) than it is from 10W to 30W (up to 2 times), and it may not even rise. This is the so-called ceiling. , It is not faster than you from 10W to 30W, at most it is a question of speed, from 30W to 50W, or from 50W to 70W, maybe you ca n’t get up for a long time, even if you have n’t reached it when you retire may.

So once you reach this ceiling, you have to be extra cautious when you change jobs.

Of course, still that sentence, adults must have their own judgment, do n’t be so uncomfortable, do n’t be too entangled with the number mentioned by LZ, if you have reached the ceiling, you have to have a little X in your heart, even if your current monthly salary is still But Wan, it is also possible that this is your ceiling, -_-.

The third reason-industry restrictions

Industry restrictions, yes, it is.

Because of industry restrictions, it is also one of the reasons why LZ's job change has been quite unsuccessful.

The industry before LZ is precisely the field of cloud computing PaaS.

When LZ started to change jobs, he was very simple. He wanted to go to a small company to become a grassroots or middle-level leader, get a high salary, and start his struggle for the rest of his life comfortably.

Now, the idea of LZ was actually taken for granted at the time.

Why?

It ’s very simple, because if you do n’t know enough about business across industries or industries, then you lose a big advantage, especially for people who come from big factories, especially if you are a Small factory, your business experience is generally not seen in your eyes.

For example, when hiring more people, who do you like most? It is usually a treasure or a cat.

Why?

Because the business is similar, and you have the experience of a top company in the industry in China, no matter whether your technology is in the air, your business experience will be at least 2,300,000 annual salary, because you encounter The technical difficulties, you usually encounter in the old company, or have some understanding, this is the value of experience.

The longer you do the technology, the more you will find that any technology, before it has been verified enough, is a lot of pits waiting for you. The process of these trips is actually a loss for the company. If you have past experience, you can greatly reduce detours in this regard.

So if you enter a company, you can get 30W annual salary by technology or other ability alone, and if you happen to have the same industry experience, and your previous company is more advanced in this industry, then maybe your annual salary Overflow 30% -50%, that is to reach 40W-45W.

I believe this is actually not difficult to understand, but LZ is sadly reminded that there are too few companies in the field of cloud computing, especially those who do PaaS, and they are in Hangzhou. The fingers of one hand ca n’t be used up, but there are still four left, that is, except for the old owner of LZ, there is basically only one.

This means that except for this company, LZ basically relies on technology and other comprehensive capabilities. The previous business experience or industry background is basically not used, and at best it can only be better than nothing.

This is why LZ can't even take the leadership of a small company. People can't hire someone who doesn't know anything about the business to bring the team.

what?

You say you can learn?

Sorry, people recruit leaders to lead and guide the team, not for you to learn.

Perhaps in the case of extreme lack of people, some companies will retreat, but the current market atmosphere, obviously few companies have this leisurely, and LZ's cloud computing background is very few after all.

So this is embarrassing, let you do the development, you are unwilling, and the salary can not be raised, who made you too high, let you be the leader, you do not understand the business, there is no corresponding industry technology accumulation, even Your technology is hanging again, but as a leader, technical capabilities are only one aspect. Rich business experience and technology precipitation in this business scenario are also very important, so this is uncomfortable.

This also made LZ deeply aware of the importance of the industry to programmers in the middle and late career. In fact, in the eyes of many programmers, there is no concept of business. I always feel that doing P2P is also doing cloud computing, and is also doing e-commerce. It feels the same.

I have to admit that it does not matter in the early stage, but the more important it is in the later stage.

Therefore, under the friendly reminder of LZ, when switching jobs, if possible, still try to maintain your own industry advantage, and remember to choose a more promising industry with more counterpart companies, otherwise, if you want to switch jobs At this time, the industry has collapsed. Do you want to be like LZ now? You can't find a position in the counterpart industry.

what?

What industry do you say is promising?

LZ can only tell you: "Where do I know, / cover your face. Judging by yourself, who can say this thing well, is the same as whether the house price is going up or down."　

The fourth reason-life restrictions

The last reason is that the relative proportion is lower, but it is indeed one of the reasons, that is, the limitation in life.

For example, the most typical distance, this is one of the few disadvantages of buying a house, because LZ's house is more biased, so the choice of work is more restricted.

Take what I said just now, for the only company in the LZ counterpart industry, it is more than 40 kilometers away from LZ's home, and it is nearly 90 kilometers away from the day. How to play.

If you are renting a house, there is no such problem. Just like changing your job when renting a house in Beijing, you will basically not consider the distance problem. If you are a big one, you will need to rent another house.

In addition to distance, there is also a limitation, that is, working hours. At present, LZ is considered to be old and old, and it is unlikely to work overtime until 11 or 12 in the evening, or even 1 or 2 in the morning. Work cannot be too tiring.

For example, a company in Hangzhou, a company in Hangzhou, and a company in Shanghai, haha, guess it yourself, these are relatively hard companies, of course, the remuneration is also drastic, depending on whether you want to change your life for money .

In fact, even if you don't consider the family, as far as LZ's own physical strength is concerned, it is not allowed to do this again. It used to be good. Now, if you stay up late to work overtime, LZ is far from being able to boil as much as before.

Therefore, as your life gradually stabilizes, your burden will become heavier and more restrictive. It will inevitably have a certain impact on your career, but correspondingly, these burdens are often also happiness Source.

In the end, which one is better or worse, you should feel it yourself.

Life after job-hopping

Although there are all kinds of entanglements and big heads when switching jobs, I have to say that life after switching is still very happy.

Wages have risen, work has changed, a lot of new colleagues have been met, a lot of new knowledge has been learned, and the whole person will be in a state of active enthusiasm.

In fact, after switching jobs, many people heard the first reaction after LZ switched jobs, "What? Did you switch jobs? Lying slots! Why do you want to switch jobs? XXX is such a good company, is it a pity that you have left? "

Faced with this kind of comparison question, LZ doesn't know what to answer. Is it necessary for a good company to enter once it enters? Did the people who go out of those big factories get brains every year?

No matter, it may not be mixed.

Just kidding, in fact, LZ said long ago that the company, like his wife, is not looking for the best, but for the most suitable.

LZ stayed in the old club for a long time. In the past 3 years, it was not long, but it was not short. Although it has gained a lot, whether it is technical or economic, it is not suitable for it is not suitable. The size of the company determines the quality of the job, not to mention the salary increase this time, and the new owner is also a fairly large company.

In fact, in retrospect, when LZ came to Hangzhou, it was very hasty and blind. At that time, LZ came at two points. One was Hangzhou, because of the low housing prices, and the other was a big factory.

As for whether the company's team culture is matched, whether the content of the work is liked, whether the industry has a future, and the future industry's impact on their careers, etc., LZ has never considered it at all.

Therefore, in terms of life, LZ is a very successful job change and city change, but only from the work point of view, in fact, the 16-year job change from Beijing to Hangzhou is not so rational.

Of course, the halo and advantages brought by big factories are incomparable to many companies. This is considered to have been studied at Peking University Tsinghua University in the circle of programmers. At least I have eaten pork and I have seen the pig run away. It can be said that the programmer's life has no regrets.

Special thanks to the boss who originally recruited LZ and the old owner of LZ. It can be said that the first three years of moving to Hangzhou and later in the old owner changed the second half of LZ.

After coming to Hangzhou, every time LZ and his wife recalled that they were in Beijing, squeezed into a small bedroom of 10 square meters, when seven or eight people robbed the toilet together, they thought life was really interesting.

Who can think of LZ, who was excited to sleep at a monthly salary of 6,000, can now hold an annual salary of XX, and who can think of LZ, who was floating in Beijing without help and help, and now can live in his own house, his wife and children, hot head Who can think of LZ, who was crowded with people standing in the bus to work every day, can now drive to work in his own luxury car.

Who would have thought that LZ, who was so enthusiastic at the beginning, is now almost bald, -_-.

Memories are always sighed, but in the end it is past. At present, LZ is in the wind and water of the new owner, and the future will continue to move forward.

Here, LZ sincerely hopes that all programmers can rely on their own efforts to climb to the peak you have never imagined before.

Although this peak may still be at the foot of some bigwigs, -_-.

The article begins, and finally I will present an interview-related article. Interested students can take a look at it. The address is " How to prepare for the interview of Alishe recruiting interviews, and talk about suggestions for various stages of Java programming ape ".

At the same time, there is also an article about LZ's experience of buying a house. Interested students can also take a look at it. The address is " Programmer's Guide to Buying a House-LZ's Three Experiences of Buying and Selling a House ".